Exelder
I deleted my post because I thought that someone agreed with the conduct of the WTBTS. Then, I realized that they were disagreeing with Tenacious's comment about literal Hell.
my cousin was disfellowshipped twenty years ago when he was 18 years old.
he admitted to the congregation elders that he was fornicating with his ''wordly'' girlfriend.
the elders were following him and hiding in their cars to see what he was up to.
Exelder
I deleted my post because I thought that someone agreed with the conduct of the WTBTS. Then, I realized that they were disagreeing with Tenacious's comment about literal Hell.
my cousin was disfellowshipped twenty years ago when he was 18 years old.
he admitted to the congregation elders that he was fornicating with his ''wordly'' girlfriend.
the elders were following him and hiding in their cars to see what he was up to.
How does your cousin feel about this? What is his status, pomo, or pomi?
My cousin hasn't stepped in a Kingdom Hall in over twenty years. He told me that he will never go back to the Kingdom Hall. He has been told that if he comes back to the meetings, they will be able to restart the relationship. He told them,''The way I have been treated for the last 20 years, why would I go back?''
He's not even allowed to see his own grandmother. It breaks his heart but he abides by their rules. He has been told numerous times to have no contact with his family.
my cousin was disfellowshipped twenty years ago when he was 18 years old.
he admitted to the congregation elders that he was fornicating with his ''wordly'' girlfriend.
the elders were following him and hiding in their cars to see what he was up to.
My cousin was disfellowshipped twenty years ago when he was 18 years old. He admitted to the congregation Elders that he was fornicating with his ''wordly'' girlfriend. The Elders were following him and hiding in their cars to see what he was up to. They caught him walking out of a hotel with his girlfriend. He admitted to everything because his conscience really bothered him.
That happened 20 years ago! How long can you punish someone? He's not invited to any family functions and only allowed at funerals where the whole family and congregation members avoid him like the plague.
He and his wife just had their first baby two months ago. His dad, sisters, aunts, and cousins have not seen the baby and have no intention of ever seeing him due to the disfellowshipping policy. Any contact with disfellowshipped persons is to be avoided.
How low can the treatment of the disfellowshipped get? They have asked my cousin's wife ( who is not a Jehovah's Witness) if she can bring the baby to their house without my cousin present. His dad even sent a baby gift with a card only addressed to his wife and baby. He couldn't even write his son's name on the card.
THEY ARE ALL CONDUCTING THEMSELVES IN A SHAMEFUL MANNER BECAUSE OF MADE UP RULES FROM EIGHT MEN LIVING IN NEW YORK! I TOLD MY COUSIN THAT IF THEY REFUSE TO SEE THE BABY WITHOUT HIM PRESENT, THEY DON'T NEED TO SEE HIS WIFE AND THE NEW BABY.
REALLY?
matthew 24:14 english standard version (esv).
14 and this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.. oh, what fun it must be preaching in africa!
nothing beats sweltering heat with monsoon rains falling all over the muddy fields and streets.
14 And this gospel of the kingdom will be proclaimed throughout the whole world as a testimony to all nations, and then the end will come.
Oh, what fun it must be preaching in Africa! Nothing beats sweltering heat with monsoon rains falling all over the muddy fields and streets. Don't forget to sidestep the crocodiles and pythons!
Meanwhile, the Governing Body members reside in air-conditioned facilities, tennis courts, free health care, free travel, and country life living. I'm sure Jesus would be proud of the Governing Body when he said:
21 Jesus answered, “If you want to be perfect, go, sell your possessions and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven. Then come, follow me.”
World Headquarters of Jehovah's Witnesses in Warwick New York, USA
blondie’s first thoughts wt study (december 2018, pages 10-12).
excellent general website: www.jwfacts.com .
and when we do this, we also honor jehovah.
BLONDIE SAID:
Jesus said, yet in the Law, only men could divorce their wives, have more than one wife and/or concubine, could sell his family into slavery to pay his bill, could own property including their own wives, that if a man only had daughters, they could not inherit, that if a single was raped, she had to marry her rapists, and the rapist could not divorce her, and the rapists paid reparations to the father not the woman, woman’s vow to god had to be approved by her husband, etc. The WTS/GB forgets to mention these or dances around them and finds specious explanations.
11 But king Solomon loved many strange women, together with the daughter of Pharaoh, women of the Moabites, Ammonites, Edomites, Zidonians, and Hittites:
2 Of the nations concerning which the Lord said unto the children of Israel, Ye shall not go in to them, neither shall they come in unto you: for surely they will turn away your heart after their gods: Solomon clave unto these in love.
3 And he had seven hundred wives, princesses, and three hundred concubines: and his wives turned away his heart.
blondie’s first thoughts wt study (december 2018, pages 10-12).
excellent general website: www.jwfacts.com .
and when we do this, we also honor jehovah.
Misogyny is the hatred of, contempt for, or prejudice against women or girls. Misogyny manifests in numerous ways, including social exclusion, sex discrimination, hostility, androcentrism, patriarchy, male privilege, belittling of women, disenfranchisement of women, violence against women, and sexual objectification.
6 The Law that God gave to the nation of Israel provided details about marriage. It allowed for polygamy, a practice that existed even before God gave Israel the Law. However, polygamy was regulated, prohibiting abuses. For example, if an Israelite married a slave and later took a second wife, he could not diminish his first wife’s food, clothing, and marital due. God required that he protect and care for her.
7 An Israelite man could divorce his wife if “he found something indecent about her.” The Law did not describe what was meant by “indecent.” It must have been something shameful or serious, not some petty offense. (Deut. 23:14) Sadly, by Jesus’ day many Jews divorced “on every sort of grounds.” (Matt. 19:3) We would surely not want to adopt their attitude.
8 The prophet Malachi revealed God’s view of divorce. That was at a time when it was common for a man treacherously to divorce ‘the wife of his youth,’ maybe to marry a younger, pagan woman. Regarding God’s view, Malachi wrote: “I hate divorce.” (Mal. 2:14-16)
in an attempt to disparage a faded jw and to obtain their personal details, he deceptively partially quoted a statement from the jw.borg web site to the new york judge when he wrote, .
"disfellowshipping does not cause family relationships to be permanently lost: "the religious ties he had with his family change, but blood ties remain.
the marriage relationship and normal family affections and dealings continue.
In his opening statement, David Gnam, Watchtower’s lawyer, tries to educate the court about the (religious) practice of “disfellowshipping”.
Jehovah’s Witnesses don’t use the word “shun” or “shunning”. They refer to it as “disfellowship”, “disfellowshipping”, “disfellowshipped” because that really gives the sense of what’s taking place within this particular religious community. “Disfellowship” literally means “no further spiritual fellowship” with the individual. […] The nature of the relationship, then, of a disfellowshipped person is not completely shunned. The disfellowshipped person is able to come into the congregation meetings, they’re able to attend in the Kingdom Hall of Jehovah’s Witnesses, they’re able to sit wherever they like, they can sing the spiritual songs with the congregation. As far as their family members are concerned, normal family relations continue with the exception of spiritual fellowship… and, the door is not closed to Mr. Wall either. The person who is disfellowshipped can, after a period of time, ask to be reinstated in the congregation, because that is the purpose of the discipline.
Half truths and lies by Mr. David Gnam. What else would you expect from a lawyer hired by the WTBTS? Here is the real truth about ''disfellowshipping.''
19 Respect the discipline of Jehovah. God knows that his discipline will benefit everyone involved, including the one who is disfellowshipped. Even though it is very painful when someone we love is disciplined, it can help him or her to return to Jehovah in the future. (Read Hebrews 12:11.) Until then, we must respect Jehovah’s direction to “stop keeping company” with those who are disfellowshipped. (1 Corinthians 5:11-13) This is not easy. But we must avoid contact with them by telephone, text messages, letters, e-mails, or social media.
https://twitter.com/mark_j_odonnell/status/1095514606657851392.
"in the past 12 months, #watchtower has obtained more than 36 unique subpoenas to identify the people who have posted their documents, leaked videos, & images from their publications.
this #watchhunt is a coordinated effort to locate & punish the leak sources.".
why do jehovah's witness members incriminate themselves to any judicial process?
how can three elders conduct a judicial meeting with a 15-year-old teenage girl who supposedly was rumored to fornicate, took drugs or was drunk from drinking alcohol?
can she or the parents refuse to answer any questions?.
54 Then they seized him and led him away, bringing him into the high priest's house, and Peter was following at a distance. 55 And when they had kindled a fire in the middle of the courtyard and sat down together, Peter sat down among them. 56 Then a servant girl, seeing him as he sat in the light and looking closely at him, said, “This man also was with him.” 57 But he denied it, saying, “Woman, I do not know him.” 58 And a little later someone else saw him and said, “You also are one of them.” But Peter said, “Man, I am not.” 59 And after an interval of about an hour still another insisted, saying, “Certainly this man also was with him, for he too is a Galilean.” 60 But Peter said, “Man, I do not know what you are talking about.” And immediately, while he was still speaking, the rooster crowed. 61 And the Lord turned and looked at Peter. And Peter remembered the saying of the Lord, how he had said to him, “Before the rooster crows today, you will deny me three times.” 62 And he went out and wept bitterly.
why do jehovah's witness members incriminate themselves to any judicial process?
how can three elders conduct a judicial meeting with a 15-year-old teenage girl who supposedly was rumored to fornicate, took drugs or was drunk from drinking alcohol?
can she or the parents refuse to answer any questions?.
Part of it's the pressure of three authoritative, respected men questioning you in a small room, kind of like getting interrogated by cops, they don't let up until they get what they want.
I once asked my cousin who was disfellowshipped for fornicating with his girlfriend.. ''Why did you admit to fornicating with your girlfriend, when you knew that you would be disfellowshipped?''
He answered, ''My conscience was bothering me?''
I told him that every day there are thousands of judge and jury trials all over the world where defendants are guilty but make the court prove their case. DENY, DENY, DENY! They all live with guilty consciences. So, can you!
******* If you ever get pulled over by a policeman for driving over the speed limit, the first thing the policeman will ask you is, ''Do you know why I pulled you over?'' The answer should always be ''No, I do not.'' The reason why he asks the question is for you to incriminate yourself by answering, '' I was probably going over the speed limit."